ELIO hungrily kisses Oliver’s closed eyes, his nose, his ears, his throat, discovering them with his lips. "What you had with Oliver was beautiful. Oliver flirts with Elio in the street, brings him to a kiss but then suddenly withdraws himself and runs away because he "heard music." Elio is the seventeen year old son of a college professor. Why would he guess ? Oliver goes out on his bicycle abruptly and ignores Elio, and Elio begins an intimate relationship with Marzia, losing his virginity and seducing her whenever possible. Performing heterosexual rites becomes a game through which the two lovers can avoid one another, avoid their own homosexuality, and make the other jealous, all at the same time. After they’ve made love, Elio doesn’t feel enthusiastic or elated. Elio introduces Marzia to his parent’s gay friends, making sure he kisses her in front of them. That’s not what would have happened with Marzia. That night, the two kiss in town and later have sex on a beach. I always thought that this was just manipulation and using a younger cute guy.And nobody seemed to care about the fact that Oliver was silent through the whole movie about his on and off relationship...is that acceptable?? They put a man in their son’s bed. I was really close to reading the book because a few readers who disagreed with me used it as an argument to oppose my perception of the movie. I think that this movie is a masterpiece in showing you everything while making the truth invisible. Just once.". Also, what about the fact that the freer Elio and Oliver are to enjoy their relationship, the more Elio obviously collapses as an individual. And thus, the boy is brought to believe that the reason why he was vexed is because he didn't want Oliver to go, he didn't like to be dismissed by Oliver, because... he has feelings for him ? This is basic manipulation. Why does he raise this point ? Elio can’t bear to harbor his desire for Oliver anymore, and after his night with Marzia, he feels committed to slipping a note under Oliver's door asking him to talk. He hates to come out of his comfort zone. They finally had sex. Oliver hints at his own affection for Elio but affirms that it would be wrong to pursue such feelings. Drunkenly stumbling through the dark, empty streets, they lean against a wall, and Oliver pulls Elio into a deep kiss. Oliver never lets Elio know what he does. When he sucks the boy off, he does so because he's worried of having lost a bit of his influence. 6 Juin 2018 Oliver : [looks at Elio, looks away again] Play it again, will you? 30 Elio and Oliver kissing in the city during trip; 30 Elio and Marzia kissing during date in the city; Enclosure 2: Music. Even less when that person is associated with your parents' approval of yourself. Elio reflects on the past fellows and on the first time he saw Oliver’s passport picture attached to his application, wondering if he felt anything back then. Then Oliver hears the Furs song and they run, or rather prance—so beautiful and innocent. Yep, there's about a mile between them. Elio resents the tradition, as it requires him to vacate his bedroom so the guest can use it for the duration of their stay. She is perfectly aware that putting a man in Elio’s room is telling her to clear off and stay away. Because this story is flatly NOT the one of a love story and there’s absolutely NOTHING beautiful about what happens in this movie, that is the destruction of a 17 years old kid by two crazy parents and a morbidly narcissistic man. Oliver visits Elio’s villa on the Italian Riviera once more for an overnight. Elio is heterosexual. 'Parce que c'était lui, parce que c'était moi,' my father added, quoting Montaigne's all-encompassing explanation for … Because Oliver vexed him on their first bike trip by suddenly ditching him with a "later." Both Oliver and Elio are seventeen; Happy Ending; Summary. Publié le There was a love story in this movie, it was between Marzia and Elio and it transformed into a nightmare. After leaving the group Oliver and Elio walk through the streets of Rome where Oliver presses Elio against the wall on “Via de Santa Maria Dell’ Anima” and kisses him. We all witness Marzia leaving, Elio and Marzia having sex, Oliver flirting with Chiara, Oliver admitting he was to marry all along etc... everything is laid out right in front of our eyes and still, it's hard to simply admit that it's too dubious, it's too complicated and convoluted to simply be a love story. If you look closely at Oliver’s behaviour you’ll spot several things: First, the older student subtly rebukes Elio a few times so that the teenage boy has to work to get his approval back. The direct consequence of that is that she’s developed a peculiar relationship with her son (slightly/borderline incestuous). Vexed by their enthusiasm towards Oliver, he is going to try and prove himself that he can “seduce” the man, not in a romantic way, but in the sense that he is going to want his skills to be acknowledged by him. Elio, an Italian teenager, is the narrator of the story. Theme: Nullified © 2012 -  When Elio was in college and received the phone call from Italy, how Oliver was overcome with the memories and then cried. Oliver IS straight. It sounds far-fetched doesn't it ? After much flirtatious banter with several of the partygoers, Elio and Oliver travel with the group to a restaurant for dinner, where the poets entertain them with stories with topics similar to Elio´s experiences with love. Elio is disturbed and ANGRY about something he will never say. It's not love. After dinner, the party goes for coffee and ends up at a bar drinking martinis, where an inebriated Elio entertains them on a piano. There’s a new history professor at Oliver’s boarding school and, of course, he gets the professor’s son as a roommate. Elio kisses Oliver the way he kisses Marzia; the way Oliver smells like the sea reminds him of the way Marzia smelled. I have also read the book and it's almost exactly like the movie, except it's even more sad from Elio's point of view...like he is deeply affected by the "relationship" 20 years later and Oliver is obviously not...and in the movie Oliver's age is not mentioned, Armie Hammer looks exactly 30, so 30 and 17 that is even worse in my opinion, because it totally feels like a cute teenager is destroyed just for fun by an older man. And thanks for your points about the book as I haven't read it but I'm very curious of its content. Oliver asks "what are you thinking about," he has this desire to be in the boy's head. "I do, but could you call me by your name son ? She’s quite cold with Oliver. There have been a few individuals with platforms, like Karamo Brown or Cheyenne Montgomery, who are willing to 'Call Abuse by Its Name", but their messages get lost in the overwhelming sea of praise that would likely think differently if this were a story about a grad school instructor grooming 17-year old girl. In the only scene of actual sexual intercourse, Elio remarks to Marzie (Esther Garrel), a local girl who adores him and wants to become his girlfriend, how good it feels, but he worries that he came too fast. Elio discovering himself homosexual isn’t a coming of age story, Oliver answers a message from Elio with “grow up.”. Oliver and Elio have that kind of x-ray vision, too: Every room in the Italian villa houses a memory of that long-ago summer. One, my article isn't homophobic go fuck yourself. It is really disquieting that so many people should see this movie as a wonderful love story when there are so many problematic elements that can't be ignored and shouldn't be brushed away. It is their most public sign of affection towards each other. Close. She’s worried. Elio pines away in his desire for Oliver while hiding his true feelings.To appease them and get his mind off Oliver, he calls Marzia and asks her on a date to watch a movie in B. Oliver is a quick-witted intellectual whose charm never fails to win people over, even when his “Americanisms” make him seem brusque and indifferent. "John looked at Emma, he was tired of all these interdictions. it's not harmony. Oliver answers a message from Elio with “grow up.” Everything is said about the morbidity of their relationship in these two words. Oh and by the way, have you read the latest Armie Hammer scandals? Glad I'm not the only one who felt this way about "Call Me by Your Name". Could this have been more symbolic ? Later, Oliver stays out all afternoon, purposefully making Elio wait so … The purpose of this is only to make Elio feel how powerless he is in front of his attraction while Oliver is entirely independant from him. Elio explains that he finds Oliver's "Later" arrogant. "You were trying to show off the power you have over me Mr Perlman, let me ridicule you and show off in return.". Luckily, Elio never rats Oliver out when he sneaks out to meet girls past the curfew, and all Elio seems to do is read. Blog d'analyses de films particulièrement poussées et rigoureuses dans leur cohérence interne, tournées vers les sous-textes, métaphores et "secrets" et ayant un intérêt dépassant largement le monde du cinéma. Pour être informé des derniers articles, inscrivez vous : WandaVision : Pas de sorcellerie mais la technologie de Stark (1781 mots), L'Anomalie: Hervé le Tellier est-il un programme informatique ? Also, It actually totally eluded my mind than no age is ever given in the movie. What about the fact that Oliver never asks anything about her ? Doubtful that Oliver reciprocates his feelings, conceals them by affecting silence and indifference. It's not something emotional, it's not a joke, it's not a request, it's not a display of physical attraction, it's a pure "Oliver pulling a string." "Dad, you do realise that I'm not you ?" You remember Marzia ? (Also) Kevin I love this scene in the movie when we begin to understand the characters.I HAVE NO RIGHTS on this video. Elio’s family members are sad about Oliver’s absence. On the eve of Elio and Oliver’s first kiss, sitting on a couch with his wife and son, he reminds Elio he can always talk to them about anything. Imagine how Elio must feel when he reads this “grow up” as an answer to the most mature thing he could have written. Ever since I saw this movie, I felt uneasy about the fact that everybody was praising this movie like it's the most beautiful love stroy ever. And he ends up asking Elio to translate what she says. Elio’s small moan melted against his lips and tangled his hands in Oliver’s shirt, feet wrapping their way around the older man’s. War Monument, two doorways—café and Oliver’s translator doorway. In the end, Elio is severely impacted for the ensuing 20 years of his life and, from beginning to end of the story, never develops a more sophisticated understanding of human relationships- well into his 30's, he is still fixated on something that happened when he was 17. This only exists in the world of manipulation, cruelty and sadism. Oliver and Perlman's fascination for the male body brought them to forget that a body is someone. He ran up his chest, to his chin, a straight line up his lips, placing a chaste kiss on his nose. This woman takes initiatives to have her 17 year old boy get sodomized by a 7 years older stranger. And three, this "this is not an opinion" is the celebration of fascism in a nutshell and I'm sure you're convinced that you're the good libertarian while you tell me it's forbidden for me to say something because "that's not an opinion, it's something forbidden." The final and perfect kiss - Elio and Oliver CMBYN. Flies are especially noticeable in the scene of Oliver and Elio’s first kiss, as well as in the final shot before the fireplace. And in that final monologue, a scene that will likely go down as one of Stuhlbarg’s finest performances, he warns Elio not to suppress his grief. I even heard that Oliver loved Elio more than Elio loved him...yeah right...It's great to see that someone like you understood that something is deeply wrong with this "love" story. Pure string pulling. He knows that Oliver is a sadistic man who revels in destroying him. Oliver… Oliver's threat sounds like a joke, the thing is, it totally works on Elio. It is their most public sign of affection towards each other. Elio reflects on the past fellows and on the first time he saw Oliver’s passport picture attached to his application, wondering if he felt anything back then. Also, the note he got from Elio was already a very disciplined version of an “over-the-top” one. The age gap and the homosexuality were perceived as signs that it was a movie for open minded subversive people and backtracking to go conservative isn't easy for everybody when it would be a great pleasure for many people to simply accuse an older man of abusing a younger woman. That’s not what would have happened with Marzia. Also, at the end of the movie, there's this beautiful moment when Elio guesses that Oliver called to tell him that he is going to marry. Oliver asks him if there’s anything he doesn’t know, and Elio alludes to his romantic attraction and frustration. Elio never worries about Marzia. Explain to me why he gets a pass at having zero consideration for anybody and that's fine. Something seems to clear away between them, and both abandon themselves to the kiss. Both these degrading initiatives convey the feeling that Oliver truly isn't in a dominating position, they're like a "look at what you make me do ! Still, Elio jumps out of the water, nearly destroying his notebook, and pushes Oliver away from his mum: the kid is scared of seeing Oliver take his place or take his father's place. Their relationship is never about love, but about ego. No love story can revolve around the idea that the two lovers can swap their positions/identities. Later Oliver admits not being interested in Chiara to Elio. Oliver still has feelings for Elio and kisses him once, but he decides against doing anything further. And destroying the boy he does, through a constant "attention back-and-forth." Putting Oliver in Elio's bed means 2 things: 1-They want Elio to have sex with Oliver  2-They want Oliver to be their son). Elio becomes irrepressibly drawn to the idea of seducing Oliver, not because he is in love with him but because the situation messes him up. I'm obviously not in control.". Perlman has a student spend six weeks with them in order to work on his PhD. I'm glad you found my article interesting. Where does the guy sleep ? 3. share. And by "takes initiatives" I mean that she is probably picturing it in these shots, and it arrouses her. For no reason, Oliver starts dancing and flirting with a woman. This bed was the bed in which Marzia and Elio should have made love for the first time of their lives... if Elio's parents hadn't been psychopaths. At dinner, Oliver calls to confirm that he arrived safely in the US. For example, at the end when they spend a week together. Oliver responds by returning his note with a message written under his, telling him to "grow up" and meet him at midnight. "I would kiss you if I could." Oliver had the antique postcard reframed and inscribed with cor cordium. “You’re beautiful,” Oliver whispered against Elio’s lips, “when I went home, all I could think about was how I love these lips, love these eyes and these thick, long eyelashes. This doesn't exist in the world of love. I always thought that this was just manipulation and using a younger cute guy.And nobody seemed to care about the fact that Oliver was silent through the whole movie about his on and off relationship...is that acceptable?? Earlier, it was because they were in public that he couldn't kiss the boy. Oliver pulled back and smiled at Elio's blissed out face. Elio's super nice and smiley girlfriend ? They recall their favorite memories together during their trip to Rome. Soon after Oliver’s arrival, Elio notices the pale, soft underside of his hands, feet, and forearms, and he contemplates the beginning of his attraction towards Oliver. This we lates find out that is a defining moment in the two's love story, as Oliver thought that Elio didn't like him. But strangely enough, both his father and his mother are going to defend the American, worse, they are subtly going to forbid their son from disliking him. Although I haven't seen that kind of movie recently. Except that they're exactly the kind of initiatives in which a manipulator revels. Soon enough, Elio feels tortured by the idea that his attraction might slip by unnoticed, so he tells Oliver how he feels. After washing his mouth in a fountain and feeling better, Oliver kisses Elio passionately against a wall. Pure initiative of a psychopath who revels into destroying people. Elio reflects on the past fellows and on the first time he saw Oliver’s passport picture attached to his application, wondering if he felt anything back then. Report Save. I even heard that Oliver loved Elio more than Elio loved him...yeah right...It's great to see that someone like you understood that something is deeply wrong with this "love" story. Perlman has a student spend six weeks with them in order to work on his PhD. Elio proposes Oliver follow him to a secluded spot and Oliver accepts. Over the course of the coming week, they begin spending more time together on boat rides, at the beach, and in B. Elio can tell that Chiara is smitten; he dreads both losing Oliver to her, and he dreads losing her too Oliver. He ran up his chest, to his chin, a straight line up his lips, placing a chaste kiss on his nose. Part 1 of the novel is an incredible build-up. Film Name: Call Me By Your Name Director: Luca Guadagnino Adapted screenplay by James Ivory from the novel by André Aciman. (Elio at 16min40s). Oliver finds the range of Elio’s knowledge on these subjects impressive, considering how young he is. The couple meets in 1983, when Oliver stays with Elio's family in Italy so he can work with Elio's archaeology professor dad. Oliver devours Elio's ego, like he would bite into a fruit. Thanks you for your comment and your common sense. And now he lacks the courage to come out, because of the society. They never have a proper goodbye. It’s very important to realise that if Call Me By Your Name was about some kind of secret and forbidden love story, it would have made no sense to make Elio’s father a homosexual. Oliver is jazzed. Elio witnesses his dad acknowledging the fact that Annella should be more attracted to Oliver than himself… that which is perfectly understandable as Perlman is homosexual and doesn’t care about being attractive in the eyes of Annella. "Heaven" is what Oliver calls the pool in-between the peach trees. The day before they first sleep together, Oliver leaves Elio a note to tell him to “meet him at midnight”. Oliver asks the woman to dance in front of the church as Elio watches Oliver with wonder in his eyes. There are two things that I find particularly vicious in all this and it's when Oliver tastes Elio's sperm and gives him a short fellatio. And the two enjoy the rest of the time Oliver has left together. Oliver begins expressing his love for Elio openly and confesses that he had been hiding his attraction for him from the beginning because he was shy. Not surprising, just hilarious. Oliver pulled back and smiled at Elio's blissed out face. The party is at a bookstore with friends and colleagues of Oliver’s. Elio witnesses his dad getting emasculated in front of his mother, and nobody seems to mind. All lies perfectly used in order to obtain a specific answer from Elio. After their night together, Elio feels confused and conflicted about the future of his relationship with Oliver but discovers that while Oliver feels similarly confused, he reciprocates his feelings of affection. And I'm serious, you're the mindless citizen from dystopian books. (Edit: In order to make things clear: a beautiful love story between a 17ish and a 24ish man that they keep secret for fear they might be judged for it, is beautiful. He appears and disappears randomly. Elio and Oliver meet each other, and Elio is instantly enamored (as is Oliver with him, though the reader only sees Elio… But what’s important here, is that Elio doesn’t know about all this and thus assimilates Oliver as a superior man to his dad. Elio regrets speaking, but he is relieved that the secrecy and shame is gone. Not only do they destroy his privacy by doing so, but the movie makes the meaning of this even more obvious by putting Marzia in Elio’s bed at the beginning of the film and by making her react exactly as if she knew what was to happen. Brave New World by Aldous Huxley (1932) This doesn't exist in the world of passionate love. Elio spends the whole day in anticipation; Oliver, knowing this, asks him the time. You can't say that ! Elio is shocked by Oliver's behaviour, and he feels violated, and ends up completely falling appart psychologically. Both Annella and M. Perlman (the father who has no name), fancy Oliver and they know it. Love is other orientated; otherwise it’s a narcissistic psychopath who is devouring a prey. Because it is really apparent, in a way that gets lost in a movie, that Elio is an unreliable narrator. And here you have a father who wants to vicariously get his wasted youth back through his son, and a mother who doesn’t want to see him grow up and go to another woman. Critics and spectators all assumed that the story was between a 17 and 24 yo but true, I can't remember of a moment when it is said and it's a very very important element that I'll check and probably add to my argumentation. Here's a review that perceives the film as being about an abusive relationship and not a love story. (All this is foreshadowing what is going to happen to them eventually. Oliver thinks the kiss will satisfy and end the matter, but Elio puts his hand between Oliver’s thighs and cups his basket. Both Oliver and Elio are seventeen; Happy Ending; Summary. And thus it carries on. And he is supposed to say this line as an expression of his happiness to see Elio, but says it like a robot. He didn't care if he had feelings for a boy or a girl, you know that, in those years, it was such a shame to be gay or bisexual but he didn't see something wrong with it. The bells tolls. par And thanks for your points about the book as I haven't read it but I'm very curious of its content. (sorry for the crudeness of these claims). Desperate move to show Elio that he can give him an erection, after the failed attempt of the previous evening. Luckily, Elio never rats Oliver out when he sneaks out to meet girls past the curfew, and all Elio seems to do is read. Annella Perlman : [Reading from The Heptaméron] A handsome young knight is madly in love with a princess, and she too is in love with him, though she seems not to be entirely aware of it. it's not appreciation. Not much, does it ? In Elio’s bed. For a boy who is entangled in an (non-consummated) incestuous relationship with his mother, it means a lot. And that kind of behavior is specifically the one of a psychopath. And I'm not saying everybody should decide that it's sexual abuse, but I wish they at least would feel that there's something wrong going on. Call Me by Your Name is a 2007 novel by American writer André Aciman that centers on a blossoming romantic relationship between an intellectually precocious and curious 17-year-old American-Italian Jewish boy named Elio Perlman and a visiting 24-year-old American Jewish scholar named Oliver in 1980s Italy. The mention of this moment in Find Me (where pages' numbers would also be great) was one of the most meaningful moments to me from a book ever. Dirty Dancing : Johnny, Penny et Billy manipulent Bébé. He truly was impolite. This map shows the route Elio and Oliver took through Rome: - Emma, I don't want to go the church of the absolute today. Time to grow a brain. Not because Elio is sad at the end of the film and Oliver marries someone else--. There they smoke cigarette at the plaza while talking. Oliver and Elio kissing under the street lamp in a night out. Low, dishonest and childish. The “apricot etymology” scene is quite meaningful. After leaving the group Oliver and Elio walk through the streets of Rome where Oliver presses Elio against the wall on “Via de Santa Maria Dell’ Anima” and kisses him. Call Me by Your Name (2017) Armie Hammer as Oliver. Also, a lot of fans kept talking about the book when talking about the movie but from what I could gather, it seemed quite ambiguous too even if in a different manner. Being scared of having someone angry at you doesn't mean you love that person. In Elio’s bed. Search, watch, and cook every single Tasty recipe and video ever - all in one place! This doesn't exist in the world of respect. He couldn't control himself and used his hand to hold Elio in place so he could lick all of it. Movies Showing Movies And Tv Shows Pretty Boys Beautiful Boys Call Me By Cinema Tv Timmy T Seen Northern Italy. Thank you for your comment, (Edit: Actually this is even more meaningful than I thought it was. For the record, 17 and 24 is fine, I have no problem with age gap but it's not the case here. I find it hilarous how any opinion other than your own is disreguarded. Oliver and Elio is playing volleyball with friends. You cannot choose to see a love story in this movie, there isn't one. I saw this movie and really loved it, but then I read your article and I realized that it is not a love story but a manipulation of a cute young man by an older pervert. Why should we stay five hours every day listening to the same things over and over ! Glad I'm not the only one who felt this way about "Call Me by Your Name". Approximately 15 years after their summer together in Italy, Elio visits one of Olivers lectures in a New England college. I read the book as well as saw the movie to try and gain a different- and perhaps more understanding- perspective of it, but the book only makes it worse. So, I'm really glad that you confirm this. Another Creepy moment is when they are again swimming but the teenager is also writing music. Silence and avoidance characterize the days after their encounter.